Dan: What keeps you with the church? Why not explore other faiths?
Aldo: Well, because we’re Catholic. And I think we have a right to be Catholic.
Michael: I still believe in most of the teachings of the church. And there were many teachings of the church that were buried in history. Like, first of all, celibacy was never an issue at the beginning of the church. Everybody, either they were married or they devoted themselves to the church or they didn’t get married. There was no law saying you had to be celibate to be a priest… that didn’t come along until much later.
Michael: You know, at first when I was young, they declared it a mental illness if you were homosexual.
Dan: Was that in general, or just Catholicism?
Aldo: General!
Dan: That must have been terrifying growing up. Was that the same for you?
Celendonio: For me, it was a bit different because I was raised very conservative, very Catholic. Plus Mexican. When I first refused to go to mass, it was a complete scandal.
Dan: When was that?
Celendonio: I was about 9 or 10. I don’t remember exactly how, I just refused. It was a big, big scandal. I can still remember. I simply refused to take everything I was hearing in church. I felt really angry, I felt really indignant, ready to fight back. I said, “Well, who are you to tell me what to think? Who are you to be speaking for some sort of God or Goddess?” I was very precocious and I was always questioning things. Mostly people didn’t know answers to the questions I posed, and that made me angrier.
Dan: What were some questions that you had?
Celendonio: Like, who made the institution of marriage in the first place? And they would say “God,” and I would ask: Well, why? “Because God said only one man and one woman.” Well, who wrote that book? “Very wise men.” Wait a minute, but the history of how the Bible was collected and compiled–it was pick-and-choose! It contradicts what you’re telling me. And those who were chosen were the ones who people felt comfortable following! And they said, “You have to get married, you have to have children.” And I said, “Well, I don’t want to have children. I don’t want to marry a woman. I don’t want to marry anyone.” Period.
Dan: And you chose to stay with the Catholic Church?
Celendonio: Yes. I saw it as a human institution that, on the one hand, did a lot of good.
Dan: I was just going to ask what keeps you with the Catholic Church.
Celendonio: Because I’ve seen it, I’ve examined it. For all that you might criticize the church for, it’s done a lot of good as well. And that’s what I grew up in. That’s what I’m comfortable in. I certainly wouldn’t go to another place that didn’t have a mass.
Dan: So you like the ceremony of mass?
Celendonio: Not only do I like it, I find a lot of meaning in it.
Dan: Such as what?
Celendonio: Such as the mysticism that uplifts a hunger inside you.
Dan: For spirituality?
Celendonio: Exactly. For some sort of connection that elevates you above everything. And as a matter of fact, I attend an agnostic church as well. Amazingly enough, and I say it with a certain touch of sadness, but this one has a mass that is much more ritualized, much more…intense. That’s a word that comes to my mind. I identify myself as Catholic, and I identify myself staunchly as Roman Catholic. On one hand, perhaps I do advocate a quiet revolution within the Catholic Church, despite the fact that my church does have aspects that need a reformation, perhaps a third Vatican? I don’t know.